Discussion:
volume control...
Mark C . Langston
2001-10-07 01:52:57 UTC
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Mark,
Does the Pronto let you program abitrary pulses - can you say "2ms
low, 1 ms high, etc. at 39KHz modulation", or does it have to learn the
codes from an existing remote?
If so then we could easily make an alternate code for the SliMP3 that
won't conflict with JVC, but has a similar format, so no changes will be
needed on the player.
For now it'll be only useful if you have a Pronto, but later we could make
it the code for our custom remote.
Well, the answer is yes -- sort of. The Pronto can learn from any
remote, but you can also directly input "discrete" IR codes. These
"discrete" codes specify the pulse frequency and modulation.

The best reference for this is found here:
http://www.remotecentral.com/features/irdisp1.htm

(more general info on the capabilities of the Pronto can be found here:
http://www.remotecentral.com/files/main.htm)

Learned codes can also be displayed -- and modified -- as hex-format
discrete codes.

I know Dan has one as well, and may be better-versed in this than
I am.
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Sean Adams
2001-10-07 01:40:41 UTC
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Mark,

Does the Pronto let you program abitrary pulses - can you say "2ms
low, 1 ms high, etc. at 39KHz modulation", or does it have to learn the
codes from an existing remote?

If so then we could easily make an alternate code for the SliMP3 that
won't conflict with JVC, but has a similar format, so no changes will be
needed on the player.

For now it'll be only useful if you have a Pronto, but later we could make
it the code for our custom remote.

Sean
Sounds fine. I might go remote shopping to find a more programmable
one, in the mean time.
I'd strongly recommend the Philips Pronto. However, the pricetag tends
to limit its audience. When I have the time (I haven't managed to get
around to this, yet), I'll be sharing a .ccf (configuration file) for
the SliMP3 and the Pronto.
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Mark C . Langston
2001-10-07 01:23:20 UTC
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Sounds fine. I might go remote shopping to find a more programmable
one, in the mean time.
I'd strongly recommend the Philips Pronto. However, the pricetag tends
to limit its audience. When I have the time (I haven't managed to get
around to this, yet), I'll be sharing a .ccf (configuration file) for
the SliMP3 and the Pronto.
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dean blackketter
2001-10-07 01:16:10 UTC
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Dean,
To make it transmit codes for volume, you first need to set it up for a
JVC receiver, then set it so the volume controls operate the receiver when
in DVD mode. Like this
S RCVR 0 1 8 ENT
DVD
S RCVR VOL+ ENT
Sounds good.
Note the MAS3507D also has bass/treble controls...
It's on the list... :-)
It's unlikely because part of the IR decoding is currently done in the
Xilinx - it's a rather bad design for legacy reasons (not using the right
pins on the PIC for the right things, the first SliMP3 prototypes didn't
have IR).
Essentially the IR codes have to look "sorta like" JVC codes, WRT to the
width of the pulses, and the measured part being the low part of the wave
and not the high. There are several other codes that would have worked,
except that they didn't implement all of the buttons on the rm-v301.
We are going to have a custom remote eventually, so the plan is to support
our own remote plus one or two standard IR codes so that people can use
3rd party remotes if they want.
Sounds fine. I might go remote shopping to find a more programmable
one, in the mean time.

-dean

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dean blackketter
2003-02-22 13:31:58 UTC
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Dean,<br>
<br>
To make it transmit codes for volume, you first need to set it up for
a<br>
JVC receiver, then set it so the volume controls operate the receiver
when<br>
in DVD mode. Like this<br>
<br>
S RCVR 0 1 8 ENT<br>
DVD<br>
S RCVR VOL+ ENT</blockquote>
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<div>Sounds good. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Note the MAS3507D also has bass/treble
controls...</blockquote>
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<div>It's on the list... :-)</div>
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<div><br></div>
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Regarding support for additional IR codes:<br>
<br>
It's unlikely because part of the IR decoding is currently done in
the<br>
Xilinx - it's a rather bad design for legacy reasons (not using the
right</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>pins on the PIC for the right things, the
first SliMP3 prototypes didn't<br>
have IR).</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br>
Essentially the IR codes have to look &quot;sorta like&quot; JVC
codes, WRT to the<br>
width of the pulses, and the measured part being the low part of the
wave<br>
and not the high. There are several other codes that would have
worked,<br>
except that they didn't implement all of the buttons on the
rm-v301.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br>
We are going to have a custom remote eventually, so the plan is to
support<br>
our own remote plus one or two standard IR codes so that people can
use<br>
3rd party remotes if they want.</blockquote>
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<div>Sounds fine.&nbsp; I might go remote shopping to find a more
programmable one, in the mean time.</div>
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<div>-dean</div>
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Sean Adams
2001-10-06 20:20:32 UTC
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Dean,

To make it transmit codes for volume, you first need to set it up for a
JVC receiver, then set it so the volume controls operate the receiver when
in DVD mode. Like this

S RCVR 0 1 8 ENT
DVD
S RCVR VOL+ ENT

Note the MAS3507D also has bass/treble controls...

Regarding support for additional IR codes:

It's unlikely because part of the IR decoding is currently done in the
Xilinx - it's a rather bad design for legacy reasons (not using the right
pins on the PIC for the right things, the first SliMP3 prototypes didn't
have IR).

Essentially the IR codes have to look "sorta like" JVC codes, WRT to the
width of the pulses, and the measured part being the low part of the wave
and not the high. There are several other codes that would have worked,
except that they didn't implement all of the buttons on the rm-v301.

We are going to have a custom remote eventually, so the plan is to support
our own remote plus one or two standard IR codes so that people can use
3rd party remotes if they want.

Sean
Hi,
I moved my SliMP3 player away from the computer and into the living
room and I REALLY want volume control, so I'm writing it.
I've found that the IR doesn't respond to the volup and voldown key
presses. I noticed XX in the table in IR.pm. Does this mean that
the remote doesn't transmit volume controls for the JVC DVD?
That would suck.
-dean
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dean blackketter
2001-10-06 20:04:41 UTC
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Hi,

I moved my SliMP3 player away from the computer and into the living
room and I REALLY want volume control, so I'm writing it.

I've found that the IR doesn't respond to the volup and voldown key
presses. I noticed XX in the table in IR.pm. Does this mean that
the remote doesn't transmit volume controls for the JVC DVD?

That would suck.

-dean

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dean blackketter
2003-02-22 13:32:08 UTC
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Hi,

I moved my SliMP3 player away from the computer and into the living room and I REALLY want volume control, so I'm writing it.

I've found that the IR doesn't respond to the volup and voldown key presses. I noticed XX in the table in IR.pm. Does this mean that the remote doesn't transmit volume controls for the JVC DVD?

That would suck.

-dean

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